That is why I think it's close to zero chance DE releases another umbra frame. Players considered this as pandering to the Chinese player base and a slap in the face to international players as well as console players who were not allowed to have a Prime version of Excalibur. That's not something they would've done had they planned on revealing it and releasing it for international players.Īnd just to remind you what that controversy was, there was controversy because DE refused to release Excalibur Prime for non-Founder players, citing the marketed exclusivity of the Founders Program, yet they were effectively skirting around that marketed exclusivity by creating what amounted to a new Excalibur Prime for their Chinese players. Again, when they finally acknowledged their partnership and said they'd release Excal Umbra for the global build, they dragged their feet on it for 3 years. I believe it was their intention to keep it secret because they freely revealed their WIP content in devstreams. They did not handle Changyou content that way. This indicates that they didn't originally plan on releasing it for the global build, and that the decision to do so was a reaction to the controversy regarding Excalibur Umbra.īased on that reasoning, I believe their Changyou partnership and Excalibur Umbra were intended to be kept secret (because they probably knew people wouldn't like the idea of a Prime version of Excalibur that was region-exclusive), I believe DE did not intend on releasing it for their international player base, and I believe the decision to release it for their international player base was a reaction to the controversy surrounding Excalibur Umbra and not a pre-planned decision. When they finally put out a post talking about it and announcing that they'd release it for the global build, it took them three years before they decided on a way to add it to the game, signifying that they had no plan for releasing it for the global build (because, yes, if they originally intended to release it, then they would've had a plan for doing so). Only after there was controversy within the community did they address it. When they went to China, they were acting like they were on vacation on social media. When Excalibur Umbra leaked out, it took them way too long to acknowledge it. How exactly were they going to keep it secret? And why do you believe that was their intention? (Imagine getting mods for these that can give boosts almost as good as the Corrupted mods, but without any defecit, so a caster frame could have a massively Forma'd build that would give Health, Strength, Range, Energy and Efficiency, with three slots over for things like Duration, and no deficits like the corrupted mods would give.) 'Solar' mods (to go with Ember) and affect things that benefit Ember, like Energy Pool, Efficiency and Range. The Umbral mods affect Health, Armour and Strength, while the next round might be. The next would be that more mods in the Umbral cycle aren't likely to happen, so another set might appear. For example Ember Cinis (Ember is a flame, Cinis is 'ash'). So another bit of speculation is that they may turn another frame to the same aspect, but use another name. The name 'Umbra' apparently came from the contrast with Excalibur's nature, the frame uses a 'sword of light' (and blinds), and Excalibur Umbra is therefore an Excalibur in Shadow. One of the things DE like to do with these is tell a new story, so there may be a quest related to it, there will be something important that they want to tell, and there will be something unique about that new frame. Speculation The frames that are most likely to get a deviant style of frame are most likely the ones that were released as part of the original game, the base 8. They're pushing back any work on something like the next Umbral-style frame until after those things. In a more recent DevStream, one of the Q&A ones this year, the topic came up again and the answer was that they're focusing on getting out all of the actually announced content, like the rest of Railjack, the rest of the Nemesis system (Liches, Sisters), The New War and Duviri Paradox. Every Warframe has a Prime, only a few get an Umbral-style. Long answer DE stated that there would be more Umbral-style frames, but they weren't going to be like Primes. ![]() ![]() ![]() Short answer We don't know and DE haven't even started the concept yet.
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